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Kieran Telo's avatar

I am staggered to learn that a cat permit is a thing, and renewable annually...! Presumably the enforcement is delegated to veterinarians who would record the lack of permit when administering treatment?

Here in the UK it becomes law in June of this year for all cats to have an identity chip. I believe the rationale is so that lost cats can be identified, and if a moggy is scraped off the road its owner can be told the bad news, and if the State decides cats need to be culled (which was talked about during the Coronavirus insanity) the man in the white suit knows which doors to knock on.

The last three cats we had: the first was jabbed and chipped as a kitten in ultra law-abiding fashion. He disappeared one night aged three and we never saw him again. Fat lot of good the chip did.

The next cat was a semi-feral beast who was creeping into a friend's garden and frightening her dogs (and stealing their food). We adopted her and she went to the vet once for a general check. Fine... and he confirmed her gender (and lack of i.d. chip). Never saw a vet again, hated all other cats with ardour, died peacefully in her old age.

Our current cat came to us as a tiny kitten and the only time he ever went near a vet was after coming home bleeding profusely from a bite (most likely a fox). He was only a few months old. The vet tidied things up and provided an antibiotic. This led to partial kidney failure and I still remember the night we settled him down into his sleeping donut not expecting to see him alive again. We discontinued the treatment after two doses. He's now 15 years old and thriving, less interested in bringing home mice but otherwise the same as ever. And he is not going in any database.

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John Wright's avatar

Yes, it seems we (our governments?) have gone into a permit frenzy. They don't seem to be stopping to think about WHY!

Why don't hamsters, or rabbits or any other fairly common pet need a permit? Are cats really that terrifying? What purpose does the permit really serve?

I'm a bit miffed, because I'm moving to South Dakota to escape the government insanity in Minnesota only to find that South Dakota government is full of many of these same absurdities.

The only option seems to be to not comply and hope you don't run across a conflict.

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Robert Pedersen's avatar

As far as I'm concerned a drivers license is the same thing. Even a passport. Marriage licenses.... The things that ẁe as humans naturally do, do not require the permission of a fictional entity enforced by an automaton. When it comes to construction... well... I fix stuff that should've never been done and a lot of it is still being done in new and inspected construction. If you rely on government for peace of mind, you've already lost your mind.

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John Wright's avatar

False faith in the government is one of the worst religions widely practiced!

I'm certainly not an expert in construction but I've lived in enough places that had shoddy work to know that being "blessed" by the government (permit + inspection) doesn't mean anything as far as being done correctly and safe.

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

America’s love for permits lost me when it requires a permit for protesting. Let me ask the government to give me permission to voice my concerns publicly about its misgovernance. lol. We’re so overgoverned.

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John Wright's avatar

That's another excellent example of "permit abuse". Any reason "they" can give for requiring a permit to protest can easily be handled by a simple and peaceful response by government officials and police. If the protest becomes violent, that's for the police to handle. Nobody applies for a "permit for a violent protest".

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MichaelH: Storyteller's avatar

The problem with permits is they do nothing to stop the ones who are criminally negligent or unethical in their practices in business or in owning pets/animals. One of the EXCUSES used for pet vaccinations is to monitor for animal cruelty. The sad thing is, the ones mistreating animals are NOT going to do anything to ensure the good health of those animals in the first place.

I also have issues with government requiring a permit for people to exercise a Constitutionally protected RIGHT. We are supposed to be able to peacefully assemble when we have a grievance with our government or other entity. So long as we do not impede others going about their way we are SUPPOSED to be able to gather WITHOUT asking governments permission to do so. And my favorite, the RIGHT to keep and bear arms. There are states that require special permits to buy/own or carry firearms. This was NEVER intended to be the case by our founders.

Our government restricts our ability to do what they are intended to protect. They are elected to ensure our rights to do these things are protected, not limited.

I do believe that taxation is theft. Permits are just an extension of those taxes. We come back to the point that our government is way out of control and oversteps it's authority DAILY. It is long past time for us to stomp our collective foot down and say ENOUGH!

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John Wright's avatar

You mention some of the "big" issues. What I'm thinking is that people need to start local and fix this attitude. Run for City Council or Mayor and get these pointless requirements deleted. Perhaps if we removed a lot of these small, useless, trivial requirements, people would not be conditioned to accept this sort of nonsense as routine for everyday life? Perhaps then we would think more critically about the big impositions of tyranny?

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