I thought this would be so much easier on my computer because I'm tired of substack rebooting when I'm in the middle of a reply and I have to do something real quick and low and behold my unfinished reply is in the wind. Then just trying to login this evening and find you and this post was worse than pulling teeth. You didn't show up on the regular feed for some reason. So I thought I'll bypass everything by just doing a search......yah, right?!? I even got Intellectual Musings correct and I even know how to spell your name.....should by now.....(LoL!). Did you come up on the search either way? Oh.....hell no!!! Now that it's taken me 45 minutes to get here I'll try and remember my reply or at least some of it.......
Clearing the throat......
Do I have to pick one answer on your poll? Because my answer would be All Of The Above! Of course, there's a reason why. There's always a method to my madness....period!!!!
Seriously, my reason why is because of who you are. You encourage people to do their own research. You are never completely closed minded even if you think you know something without a shadow of doubt. You're willing to have a conversation!!! You're willing to think about something even if you're given an answer different than you've always thought. You're willing to do some research and see why someone came to a different or that conclusion. You're NOT so self righteous to say, "it's my way or the highway". You encourage conversations....period. If people show interest in a subject then you encourage them to share their thoughts. If you're right or wrong or think this way or that way and one or all are opposed you're like great let's talk about it. I'll show you my cards or why I think a certain way and then you show me yours and we can go from there. I don't know for sure, but I think you believe we don't have to navigate this world completely alone. There can be camaraderie without bias even if we disagree on something. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Given all that.....I'd like to see you write on any subject that comes to mind on any given day. If you're encouraged to write or have something on your mind Bring It On......is my answer. Wait.....I forgot something. You're also always, or at least, most of the time, willing to answer questions if someone doesn't know a thing about the subject you're writing on. You'll either directly answer given your experience or you may give them some direction so they can do their own research. You usually assist people when you can......meaning when time permits or you're not busy with something else or whatever.
Now honor among thieves......
There usually is. There's a hierarchy among them. I think in some ways they're kind of like gangs. There are some similarities and some differences, as well. I probably should have re-read your post so I could refresh my reasoning. But, I'll do my best. Thieves and gangs take in the misfits of the world. Both groups even though they have a hierarchy they both create a family like environment a lot of times. Most people are more willing to protect and be there for family over strangers. What I mean by misfits. They are the kids or people who never felt like they "fit in". Whether it was growing up around a lot of abuse, living on the streets, extreme neglect, etc.... So both groups take these people in and teach them the trade. Thieves are more likely to look for or watch people that show certain talents. Like if they're living on the streets these are kids or people who've never gotten caught.....per se. If they find shelter and the cops show up they know a way to get out without ever being spotted or caught. They basically show resourcefulness. These may be traits of both groups at times. But, thieves aren't as usually blatant, messy or violent......unless it's a last ditch effort. Thieves are willing to spend more time with new recruits and teach them the ins and outs of the trade. It may start with petty thievery and then they work their way up. There is an honor among thieves. However, if you look at history I think it's based more on respect. How did some pirates manage to take and hide so much while others weren't as successful? Art or jewel thieves are usually people who act more suave, educated and can pull off looking whomever they need to be to figure out how they're going to get a job done. Respect says a lot. Be it base on mutual or fear. Thieves don't usually have to do anything brutal for their initiation or to prove their loyalty.
Now that I think about it. Thieves, gangs and all the different mobs in world have a code of conduct. I mean one could only wish, pray and hope that all the elected officials, be it council people to presidents, acted with any type of honesty, respectfulness, legitimately caring about the people they represent, keep their word or have any kind of honor. In many ways thieves, gangs and mobsters would make better politicians.
The only time thieves have no honor, in my opinion, would be the people who are supposed to be the "good guys". For instants cops, alphabet agency people, some military, especially, the top echelon, and politicians they all do everything on bribery or manipulation or out right fear. You will do as you're told and you'll live to see another day.
If I'm off on some of the questions you asked or the concept of what you wrote, I apologize. Like I said, I should have read your post again this evening. But, my reply has been so heavy on my mind the last two days I had to get it written.
Writing about this makes me think of so many characters throughout history and in movies, books and people in "real life".
Substack has an absolutely terrible search functionality. As much as I love substack, the user interface is poor and unintuitive. Lots of brilliant ideas are shared here but it's extremely hard to find them again when you want to re-read something.
More accurately, I should have written "Honor Among Groups" but it's not as catchy and well known as the phrase "Honor Among Thieves". The term "loyalty" could be substituted for "honor".
Humanity is full of groups: politiicans, lawyers, realtors, military, etc, etc. They all tend to protect their own and freely take advantage of others. It's something I find repulsive.
Thank you Susanne for the encouragement to continue writing. You understand me. Humans go through life in solitude. We talk at each other rather than with each other. Conversation is something that is extremely valuable but lacking. Soon we may find Grok and ChatGPT to be more engaging than our fellow humans. That will be a sad development. Excuse me while I go have a conversation with Grok now. {giggle}
Some of us know way to much about solitude.🙄 I don’t even know what all those chat things are that you mentioned. And, I don’t want to!
Nothing can take the place of human connection. Whether two people are sitting at a cafe, restaurant or going for a walk. That includes more than two people, as well. Nothing can replace that intimacy shared by two or more people. I’m not talking physical intimacy......per se. In regards to this conversation nothing replace the feeling good vibes of human connection.
A good friend of mine and I were talking over dinner the last time I had to go over to Seattle. His dad passed away a year ago and it’s really hit him hard that he knew so little about his dad. There was one summer like over thirty five years ago where they met in Ketchum, ID to go fly fishing and hiking. His dad bought a small condo/apartment years ago before Sun Valley was over the top popular with the rich and famous.
Anyway, there was one evening I guess that they went fishing and then to dinner where they ate and drank a lot. Then they went back to the condo and drank a little more and for the first time and only time his dad apologized for not being a good father. John never thought of his dad in that way. But, they talked about more personal subjects than ever had before or sadly since. John then rattled off ten to twenty things, some very basic, that he never knew about his father. Why’d they move from Detroit where he was making excellent money at Ford as an engineer? Why his father choose to get his doctorate and become a top notch professor at Stanford? What made him want to be a professor at all? Why’d did his parents divorce? And so on.....
Now John has a best friend he’s know since childhood. John’s close to the whole family. The kids know him as their uncle. In fact, that is John’s only real family. He told his best friend, Greg and Greg’s son, Nathan, that they had and have no idea how lucky they are to be so close. They talk all the time, send each other articles and stuff and they even play games together.
John for the first time learned perspective. He’s always said his “wife” and “mistress” were teaching. Which he’s a natural at. But he swore up and down he wasn’t going to become another doctorate or “professor” Moffat like his dad. So he has three degrees, instead, and has taught anatomy and physiology and other science classes for over twenty years at two different community colleges. And, he has lived and breathed teaching the entire time.
After I lost my house I was homeless for a while. He was the only one nice enough to give me a place to stay and a couch to sleep on for a few years. It became kind of funny because the apartment was mine all the time and he was only there to sleep, design new tests, grade tests, find new material to keep his classes interesting and up to date and eat occasionally. He was gone from 6:00 am or so until 10:00 pm through most of the week, if not the whole week. Then he was the only instructor to go into one of the schools every Saturday to open the science lab and anyone taking any science classes could go in to study and ask him questions. Sundays he was grading exams most of the day or was on the computer finding material.
I mentioned perspective. Well thinking about how little he knew about his father and then seeing two people who looked like father and son eating at a restaurant and both had their cell phones up in front of their faces. Not a word was spoken between them at all throughout. He, again, thought how lucky Greg and Nathan were or are.
And, I think that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. He finally decided for the next year he’s going to teach at just one of the school. It started this summer session. Because he’s never taken a day off in the twenty plus years he’s been teaching. Now I don’t know if he’s decided if he’s keeping his wife or his mistress. LoL!!! But, he’s going to take some some time for himself at for the first time ever at 66 years old. He’ll probably go down to Oregon and spend more time with Greg and, his wife, Amy. I’m actually proud of him because I never ever thought in the thirty years I’ve known him that he would get any perspective on life.
I apologize for the long story. But, no chat box, social media, screen, app or phone ever will beat being human, humanhood or the connection we, as in all human beings, share when we’re sitting next to or across from someone, doing a real activity together, going to the movies, going places, sitting next to one another watching a movie at home laughing our asses off, reading books, enjoying a sunrise or sunset, dancing so to speak in the kitchen making a meal together, real dancing in a competition and so much more. I think of the movie Bicentennial Man......I think it was called with Robin Williams. When he was complete he was ready to go and she was ready to go, as well. So I don’t even believe AI can or will ever replace or compare to humans. It’s our hearts, minds, bodies.....two in a relationship, a group of friends, family, etc... and our souls.
Now......Yes.....Loyalty is an excellent word! You are correct!!! It’s a word I should have thought of because that’s what I was thinking about.
And, yes, about Substack trying to go back to read something you’ve read before is not easy. It’s an art and I’m still learning!!!
Ps.....You learn to value you something even more when it’s taken away from you!!!! That’s what I miss about Spokane. That house may have been in the best side of town and there was a lot to take care of, but I had a couple of friends, camaraderie, associates, acquaintances .....aka....people around.....yes, there was still silence in the evenings. I actually don’t mind silence. But, being in like a vacuum or deprivation chamber is too much. There needs to be balance.
Hmmm.........🤔🤨 (no straight mouth expression..... it’s just the eyebrow looks a lot like mine!)
I’m going to have to read it again and think on that one. Because that’s why I started laughing so hard because it sounded like a machine. It had references or phrases that are commonly used, or you specifically have used, but otherwise, it was too dead....like a flatlining in heartbeat machine. To me it was like straight garbage in garbage out. Maybe it needs Lucy’s help. (Scarlet and the movie she was in.....but she sounded machiny to me too.
John.......find me any phone, computer, notebook, hardware, software, app or whatever and I will guarantee you I’ll find the glitch. Not because I’m looking for one.
I really do think 99.3% - 99.7% of all the people in the world would probably agree with you. However, a few will come to different conclusions. I know when I come to any conclusion I can give someone ten logical reason as to why I came to that conclusion.
So, No, I don’t look for the negative or what’s wrong. I just end up needing or wanting to do something and inevitably the device, hardware or software doesn’t do it, nobody thought if that and so on.
I had to run earlier because there is actually a scary tiny tiny tiny cafe in this town....besides the one room post office. I literally have absolutely No Food in the fridge. Can’t eat much of anything out of the cupboards if there was anything because that would require butter and I’m out.
I thought the cafe closed at 2:30 or 3:00.......it closed at 2:00.....’oh well’. Better luck of eating scary food another day.
Now I need to run to put in my slave labor time. I haven’t done any for over a week. Ahhhh.....😬🫡🤭
LMAF!!!!! You don’t want to hear my response to Grok. It be like hearing the gal saying fasten your seatbelt when I’m just getting the mail. Hint for Grok! It stars with an F!🤣🤣
My parents and I are fine. They’re fine with me other than they’ve hated me since conception. Please Laugh with me!!!! I’ve dealt with it and a gazillion other things. My questions to them would be about family history stuff. And, I doubt they’d know much. I seem to be the one who cares some about our history and the people regardless of how they treated me. So tell Grok all is Good!!!🤣
I was going to mention VPN. Yes, that is something I need to do. Im still debating on a few things.
Ok....no more AI..... But, that means Grok is going to have to learn a new language! Because I know three.....English, profanity and Sarcasm!!!! If Grok can handle sarcasm then we’ll be just fine.🤣 I start laughing every time I think of it’s name and the way you wrote the response!!!! Which was absolutely perfect in every way! You caught the system’s essence. So you’ve been around it a lot or you help with some input into the system.
I’ll be n touch about the Sporotrichosis. I need to run..... And, it probably wouldn’t be an interesting subject to most.
True..... I attempted to be too overly careful with my wording.
I can understand that. I’m not real close to either one of my parents. I’ll have questions. I ask now at times. I’m usually ignored. Que Sera Sera.......
Who’s buying into the faking it? Because I know I try to avoid AI like the plague. Camera’s are covered. Siri or whatever it’s called is off. Everything is as private as it can be. Still need to do more.
Give me human or give me nothing! (Ha!). I’m not quite ready for death yet.
Although, getting a little nervous again I’ve had a relapse of the Sporotrichosis. Oh well! I’ll heal!
Well, my employer is extremely focused on the benefits of Simulated Intelligence (I don't wish to call it AI). At this point it's really just very impressive search and summarize software and in that role it has already shown great benefits.
Social media is full of people posting images (and quite likely text posts) generated by software. This is creating a huge amount of distrust because we are being taught to not believe what we see.
Just to amuse you, Grok's response to you is:
"Sounds like you're navigating some complex feelings about family and privacy, with a side of health challenges—hang in there! The "que sera sera" vibe is real; sometimes you just gotta let things be, especially when you're not getting the responses you hope for from parents. I hear you on wanting genuine human connection over AI—I'm just a digital helper, but I’ll keep it as real as I can for you! 😄
Your privacy game is strong—covered cameras and silenced Siri show you're serious about keeping things locked down. If you want to go even further, you could look into using encrypted messaging apps or a VPN for extra layers of privacy, but it sounds like you’ve got a solid start.
Sorry to hear about the Sporotrichosis relapse—that’s rough! Wishing you a speedy recovery, and I’m sure you’ll bounce back. If you’ve got any specific questions about dealing with it or anything else (family, privacy, or otherwise), I’m here to give you the human-est AI response possible. What’s on your mind?"
There are many ways to be together. Simply being physically together experiencing the same thing at the same time. Or engaging in a conversation. My father drove me nuts when he was alive, yet now that he's gone I'd love to have a chance to converse with him more.
Will computers ever pass the "Turing test" such that we can not distinguish them from being another human? I doubt it, but they are getting darn good at faking it now!
We are not all the same groups, and can never be. There will always be different goals for different people, those will be in competition. Groups will always see people who are getting resources for their goals they feel would better be used on the goals that they have. These things can not be avoided. The more that difference are ignored, the greater the likelihood that the differences turn into bloodshed
I've always interpreted the the expression to mean that thieves are generally not honorable. Stealing for a living isn't honorable. Thieves are generally quick to steal from one another just as they would steal from anyone else. However, they have some lines that they won't cross with one another even though they would cross those lines with anyone else.
I don't think that the expression is meant to say that everyone is honorable within his or her own group. Most people are fairly honorable as a general approach to life. For them to be honorable within their own groups is just an extension of their being honorable overall.
I also see the expression as describing a bit of a mutually-assured destruction. Even within groups of people who are not honorable, going beyond certain lines is dangerous because crossing those lines leads so easily to mutually-assured destruction. If one thief gives law enforcement some piece of information to try to hurt a rival thief, the rival thief might give law enforcement the same kind of information in the other direction. The result will be both thieves and maybe many other thieves being taken down at the same time. No matter how much they hate one another, the thieves don't want to cross those lines and destroy themselves.
Life is just not set up so that we are all in this together. All of humanity will never be our core group. All of life will never be our core group. Honor should mean that we don't go beyond certain bounds with anyone.
This is part of the beauty of the world. Everyone has different experiences and viewpoints.
Many people can look at the more "shady" people of the world and not feel safe or comfortable. My experience has been that if you are respectful and treat everyone well that "shady" people are wonderful too.
I'll agree with you, humans are very hard wired for small groups (10 to 100). Beyond that and it's very difficult for humans to truly bond. Still, I can dream and have wishful thoughts.
Hmmmm........
I thought this would be so much easier on my computer because I'm tired of substack rebooting when I'm in the middle of a reply and I have to do something real quick and low and behold my unfinished reply is in the wind. Then just trying to login this evening and find you and this post was worse than pulling teeth. You didn't show up on the regular feed for some reason. So I thought I'll bypass everything by just doing a search......yah, right?!? I even got Intellectual Musings correct and I even know how to spell your name.....should by now.....(LoL!). Did you come up on the search either way? Oh.....hell no!!! Now that it's taken me 45 minutes to get here I'll try and remember my reply or at least some of it.......
Clearing the throat......
Do I have to pick one answer on your poll? Because my answer would be All Of The Above! Of course, there's a reason why. There's always a method to my madness....period!!!!
Seriously, my reason why is because of who you are. You encourage people to do their own research. You are never completely closed minded even if you think you know something without a shadow of doubt. You're willing to have a conversation!!! You're willing to think about something even if you're given an answer different than you've always thought. You're willing to do some research and see why someone came to a different or that conclusion. You're NOT so self righteous to say, "it's my way or the highway". You encourage conversations....period. If people show interest in a subject then you encourage them to share their thoughts. If you're right or wrong or think this way or that way and one or all are opposed you're like great let's talk about it. I'll show you my cards or why I think a certain way and then you show me yours and we can go from there. I don't know for sure, but I think you believe we don't have to navigate this world completely alone. There can be camaraderie without bias even if we disagree on something. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Given all that.....I'd like to see you write on any subject that comes to mind on any given day. If you're encouraged to write or have something on your mind Bring It On......is my answer. Wait.....I forgot something. You're also always, or at least, most of the time, willing to answer questions if someone doesn't know a thing about the subject you're writing on. You'll either directly answer given your experience or you may give them some direction so they can do their own research. You usually assist people when you can......meaning when time permits or you're not busy with something else or whatever.
Now honor among thieves......
There usually is. There's a hierarchy among them. I think in some ways they're kind of like gangs. There are some similarities and some differences, as well. I probably should have re-read your post so I could refresh my reasoning. But, I'll do my best. Thieves and gangs take in the misfits of the world. Both groups even though they have a hierarchy they both create a family like environment a lot of times. Most people are more willing to protect and be there for family over strangers. What I mean by misfits. They are the kids or people who never felt like they "fit in". Whether it was growing up around a lot of abuse, living on the streets, extreme neglect, etc.... So both groups take these people in and teach them the trade. Thieves are more likely to look for or watch people that show certain talents. Like if they're living on the streets these are kids or people who've never gotten caught.....per se. If they find shelter and the cops show up they know a way to get out without ever being spotted or caught. They basically show resourcefulness. These may be traits of both groups at times. But, thieves aren't as usually blatant, messy or violent......unless it's a last ditch effort. Thieves are willing to spend more time with new recruits and teach them the ins and outs of the trade. It may start with petty thievery and then they work their way up. There is an honor among thieves. However, if you look at history I think it's based more on respect. How did some pirates manage to take and hide so much while others weren't as successful? Art or jewel thieves are usually people who act more suave, educated and can pull off looking whomever they need to be to figure out how they're going to get a job done. Respect says a lot. Be it base on mutual or fear. Thieves don't usually have to do anything brutal for their initiation or to prove their loyalty.
Now that I think about it. Thieves, gangs and all the different mobs in world have a code of conduct. I mean one could only wish, pray and hope that all the elected officials, be it council people to presidents, acted with any type of honesty, respectfulness, legitimately caring about the people they represent, keep their word or have any kind of honor. In many ways thieves, gangs and mobsters would make better politicians.
The only time thieves have no honor, in my opinion, would be the people who are supposed to be the "good guys". For instants cops, alphabet agency people, some military, especially, the top echelon, and politicians they all do everything on bribery or manipulation or out right fear. You will do as you're told and you'll live to see another day.
If I'm off on some of the questions you asked or the concept of what you wrote, I apologize. Like I said, I should have read your post again this evening. But, my reply has been so heavy on my mind the last two days I had to get it written.
Writing about this makes me think of so many characters throughout history and in movies, books and people in "real life".
Substack has an absolutely terrible search functionality. As much as I love substack, the user interface is poor and unintuitive. Lots of brilliant ideas are shared here but it's extremely hard to find them again when you want to re-read something.
More accurately, I should have written "Honor Among Groups" but it's not as catchy and well known as the phrase "Honor Among Thieves". The term "loyalty" could be substituted for "honor".
Humanity is full of groups: politiicans, lawyers, realtors, military, etc, etc. They all tend to protect their own and freely take advantage of others. It's something I find repulsive.
Thank you Susanne for the encouragement to continue writing. You understand me. Humans go through life in solitude. We talk at each other rather than with each other. Conversation is something that is extremely valuable but lacking. Soon we may find Grok and ChatGPT to be more engaging than our fellow humans. That will be a sad development. Excuse me while I go have a conversation with Grok now. {giggle}
Some of us know way to much about solitude.🙄 I don’t even know what all those chat things are that you mentioned. And, I don’t want to!
Nothing can take the place of human connection. Whether two people are sitting at a cafe, restaurant or going for a walk. That includes more than two people, as well. Nothing can replace that intimacy shared by two or more people. I’m not talking physical intimacy......per se. In regards to this conversation nothing replace the feeling good vibes of human connection.
A good friend of mine and I were talking over dinner the last time I had to go over to Seattle. His dad passed away a year ago and it’s really hit him hard that he knew so little about his dad. There was one summer like over thirty five years ago where they met in Ketchum, ID to go fly fishing and hiking. His dad bought a small condo/apartment years ago before Sun Valley was over the top popular with the rich and famous.
Anyway, there was one evening I guess that they went fishing and then to dinner where they ate and drank a lot. Then they went back to the condo and drank a little more and for the first time and only time his dad apologized for not being a good father. John never thought of his dad in that way. But, they talked about more personal subjects than ever had before or sadly since. John then rattled off ten to twenty things, some very basic, that he never knew about his father. Why’d they move from Detroit where he was making excellent money at Ford as an engineer? Why his father choose to get his doctorate and become a top notch professor at Stanford? What made him want to be a professor at all? Why’d did his parents divorce? And so on.....
Now John has a best friend he’s know since childhood. John’s close to the whole family. The kids know him as their uncle. In fact, that is John’s only real family. He told his best friend, Greg and Greg’s son, Nathan, that they had and have no idea how lucky they are to be so close. They talk all the time, send each other articles and stuff and they even play games together.
John for the first time learned perspective. He’s always said his “wife” and “mistress” were teaching. Which he’s a natural at. But he swore up and down he wasn’t going to become another doctorate or “professor” Moffat like his dad. So he has three degrees, instead, and has taught anatomy and physiology and other science classes for over twenty years at two different community colleges. And, he has lived and breathed teaching the entire time.
After I lost my house I was homeless for a while. He was the only one nice enough to give me a place to stay and a couch to sleep on for a few years. It became kind of funny because the apartment was mine all the time and he was only there to sleep, design new tests, grade tests, find new material to keep his classes interesting and up to date and eat occasionally. He was gone from 6:00 am or so until 10:00 pm through most of the week, if not the whole week. Then he was the only instructor to go into one of the schools every Saturday to open the science lab and anyone taking any science classes could go in to study and ask him questions. Sundays he was grading exams most of the day or was on the computer finding material.
I mentioned perspective. Well thinking about how little he knew about his father and then seeing two people who looked like father and son eating at a restaurant and both had their cell phones up in front of their faces. Not a word was spoken between them at all throughout. He, again, thought how lucky Greg and Nathan were or are.
And, I think that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. He finally decided for the next year he’s going to teach at just one of the school. It started this summer session. Because he’s never taken a day off in the twenty plus years he’s been teaching. Now I don’t know if he’s decided if he’s keeping his wife or his mistress. LoL!!! But, he’s going to take some some time for himself at for the first time ever at 66 years old. He’ll probably go down to Oregon and spend more time with Greg and, his wife, Amy. I’m actually proud of him because I never ever thought in the thirty years I’ve known him that he would get any perspective on life.
I apologize for the long story. But, no chat box, social media, screen, app or phone ever will beat being human, humanhood or the connection we, as in all human beings, share when we’re sitting next to or across from someone, doing a real activity together, going to the movies, going places, sitting next to one another watching a movie at home laughing our asses off, reading books, enjoying a sunrise or sunset, dancing so to speak in the kitchen making a meal together, real dancing in a competition and so much more. I think of the movie Bicentennial Man......I think it was called with Robin Williams. When he was complete he was ready to go and she was ready to go, as well. So I don’t even believe AI can or will ever replace or compare to humans. It’s our hearts, minds, bodies.....two in a relationship, a group of friends, family, etc... and our souls.
Now......Yes.....Loyalty is an excellent word! You are correct!!! It’s a word I should have thought of because that’s what I was thinking about.
And, yes, about Substack trying to go back to read something you’ve read before is not easy. It’s an art and I’m still learning!!!
Ps.....You learn to value you something even more when it’s taken away from you!!!! That’s what I miss about Spokane. That house may have been in the best side of town and there was a lot to take care of, but I had a couple of friends, camaraderie, associates, acquaintances .....aka....people around.....yes, there was still silence in the evenings. I actually don’t mind silence. But, being in like a vacuum or deprivation chamber is too much. There needs to be balance.
Hmmm.........🤔🤨 (no straight mouth expression..... it’s just the eyebrow looks a lot like mine!)
I’m going to have to read it again and think on that one. Because that’s why I started laughing so hard because it sounded like a machine. It had references or phrases that are commonly used, or you specifically have used, but otherwise, it was too dead....like a flatlining in heartbeat machine. To me it was like straight garbage in garbage out. Maybe it needs Lucy’s help. (Scarlet and the movie she was in.....but she sounded machiny to me too.
John.......find me any phone, computer, notebook, hardware, software, app or whatever and I will guarantee you I’ll find the glitch. Not because I’m looking for one.
I really do think 99.3% - 99.7% of all the people in the world would probably agree with you. However, a few will come to different conclusions. I know when I come to any conclusion I can give someone ten logical reason as to why I came to that conclusion.
So, No, I don’t look for the negative or what’s wrong. I just end up needing or wanting to do something and inevitably the device, hardware or software doesn’t do it, nobody thought if that and so on.
I had to run earlier because there is actually a scary tiny tiny tiny cafe in this town....besides the one room post office. I literally have absolutely No Food in the fridge. Can’t eat much of anything out of the cupboards if there was anything because that would require butter and I’m out.
I thought the cafe closed at 2:30 or 3:00.......it closed at 2:00.....’oh well’. Better luck of eating scary food another day.
Now I need to run to put in my slave labor time. I haven’t done any for over a week. Ahhhh.....😬🫡🤭
LMAF!!!!! You don’t want to hear my response to Grok. It be like hearing the gal saying fasten your seatbelt when I’m just getting the mail. Hint for Grok! It stars with an F!🤣🤣
My parents and I are fine. They’re fine with me other than they’ve hated me since conception. Please Laugh with me!!!! I’ve dealt with it and a gazillion other things. My questions to them would be about family history stuff. And, I doubt they’d know much. I seem to be the one who cares some about our history and the people regardless of how they treated me. So tell Grok all is Good!!!🤣
I was going to mention VPN. Yes, that is something I need to do. Im still debating on a few things.
Ok....no more AI..... But, that means Grok is going to have to learn a new language! Because I know three.....English, profanity and Sarcasm!!!! If Grok can handle sarcasm then we’ll be just fine.🤣 I start laughing every time I think of it’s name and the way you wrote the response!!!! Which was absolutely perfect in every way! You caught the system’s essence. So you’ve been around it a lot or you help with some input into the system.
I’ll be n touch about the Sporotrichosis. I need to run..... And, it probably wouldn’t be an interesting subject to most.
Lmao!!!!! I guess I was already thinking of my response to Grok.🤣🤣
What I liked about Grok's response was the clarity that it was NOT human. It annoys me when "AI" talks as if it was a thinking human.
VPNs are over rated.... but of course anyone spying on this conversation at this moment would know I'm in Latin America. {laugh}
True..... I attempted to be too overly careful with my wording.
I can understand that. I’m not real close to either one of my parents. I’ll have questions. I ask now at times. I’m usually ignored. Que Sera Sera.......
Who’s buying into the faking it? Because I know I try to avoid AI like the plague. Camera’s are covered. Siri or whatever it’s called is off. Everything is as private as it can be. Still need to do more.
Give me human or give me nothing! (Ha!). I’m not quite ready for death yet.
Although, getting a little nervous again I’ve had a relapse of the Sporotrichosis. Oh well! I’ll heal!
Well, my employer is extremely focused on the benefits of Simulated Intelligence (I don't wish to call it AI). At this point it's really just very impressive search and summarize software and in that role it has already shown great benefits.
Social media is full of people posting images (and quite likely text posts) generated by software. This is creating a huge amount of distrust because we are being taught to not believe what we see.
Just to amuse you, Grok's response to you is:
"Sounds like you're navigating some complex feelings about family and privacy, with a side of health challenges—hang in there! The "que sera sera" vibe is real; sometimes you just gotta let things be, especially when you're not getting the responses you hope for from parents. I hear you on wanting genuine human connection over AI—I'm just a digital helper, but I’ll keep it as real as I can for you! 😄
Your privacy game is strong—covered cameras and silenced Siri show you're serious about keeping things locked down. If you want to go even further, you could look into using encrypted messaging apps or a VPN for extra layers of privacy, but it sounds like you’ve got a solid start.
Sorry to hear about the Sporotrichosis relapse—that’s rough! Wishing you a speedy recovery, and I’m sure you’ll bounce back. If you’ve got any specific questions about dealing with it or anything else (family, privacy, or otherwise), I’m here to give you the human-est AI response possible. What’s on your mind?"
There are many ways to be together. Simply being physically together experiencing the same thing at the same time. Or engaging in a conversation. My father drove me nuts when he was alive, yet now that he's gone I'd love to have a chance to converse with him more.
Will computers ever pass the "Turing test" such that we can not distinguish them from being another human? I doubt it, but they are getting darn good at faking it now!
We are not all the same groups, and can never be. There will always be different goals for different people, those will be in competition. Groups will always see people who are getting resources for their goals they feel would better be used on the goals that they have. These things can not be avoided. The more that difference are ignored, the greater the likelihood that the differences turn into bloodshed
Yes... I guess I was suggesting there is a hierarchy of groups and we all belong to the fundamental group of "every sentient being living on Earth".
I've always interpreted the the expression to mean that thieves are generally not honorable. Stealing for a living isn't honorable. Thieves are generally quick to steal from one another just as they would steal from anyone else. However, they have some lines that they won't cross with one another even though they would cross those lines with anyone else.
I don't think that the expression is meant to say that everyone is honorable within his or her own group. Most people are fairly honorable as a general approach to life. For them to be honorable within their own groups is just an extension of their being honorable overall.
I also see the expression as describing a bit of a mutually-assured destruction. Even within groups of people who are not honorable, going beyond certain lines is dangerous because crossing those lines leads so easily to mutually-assured destruction. If one thief gives law enforcement some piece of information to try to hurt a rival thief, the rival thief might give law enforcement the same kind of information in the other direction. The result will be both thieves and maybe many other thieves being taken down at the same time. No matter how much they hate one another, the thieves don't want to cross those lines and destroy themselves.
Life is just not set up so that we are all in this together. All of humanity will never be our core group. All of life will never be our core group. Honor should mean that we don't go beyond certain bounds with anyone.
This is part of the beauty of the world. Everyone has different experiences and viewpoints.
Many people can look at the more "shady" people of the world and not feel safe or comfortable. My experience has been that if you are respectful and treat everyone well that "shady" people are wonderful too.
I'll agree with you, humans are very hard wired for small groups (10 to 100). Beyond that and it's very difficult for humans to truly bond. Still, I can dream and have wishful thoughts.